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On Thu, Jul 31 2025, Gerd M=C3=B6llmann wrote:
> Hm, don't know what's best to do. At least it can't be the reason for
> the current case, right?
The assertion was:
AVER(RefSetSub(ScanStateUnfixedSummary(ss), SegSummary(seg))); /* <desi=
gn/check/#.common> */
It looks like MPS found a reference to a zone/generation that it was not
expecting to find. If something is able to by-pass memory barriers it
could create such unexpected references. Of course, I'm just
speculating. I don't even know how Pip figured out that this particular
assertion failed.
I would not change anything without a reproducible test case. Could be
tricky to create the problematic situation: the access must happen after
the flip and not go through read-protected objects.
Helmut
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Don't know if that=20 >> a role here. > > I didn't know that. And the glyph matrix, is that a tty-only thing > too? No, every window has a glyph matrix. On ttys, window glyph matrices are sub-allocated from a frame matrix, and all matrices are allocated from glyph pools. On GUIs there are neither frame matrices nor glyph pools, and windows manage the matrix memory themselves. See dispnew.c, allocate_matrices_for_window_redisplay, and allocate_matrices_for_frame_redisplay. > Anyway, my concern is a bit more general: I think that objects without > memory barriers, (e.g. structs allocated with malloc) should be scanned > as roots. > > E.g. in fix_frame there is code that uses FRAME_FONT and to get the > address of some field in a device dependent struct. This struct is not > protected by a memory barrier; I think these kind of structs should be > roots. > > In the MPS paper, section "Phase 4: Black Mutator Tracing", they say > that gray and white segments are read protected. I assume that also > means that, at his point, there are no write barriers. If the mutator > can read a pointer to a white object from a struct without read barriers > and put the white pointer in a black object, then we have a problem. > That's why I think that structs without memory barriers should be roots. > > There might be special circumstances where code like in fix_frame is > sufficient. E.g. if for some reason all paths to the font field go > though the read-protected frame. But I think those special conditions > are hard to think about and it would be simpler to just make the thing a > root. Hm, could be. And what you say makes sense to me, as a potential problem. I've never studied the MPS implementation in depth, so I don't know if they take this into account, and have something for this case. The only thing I remember from the docs is that one is allowed, while scanning, in our case in the fix functions, to access non-MPS memory. I don't think the docs say that one may not scan such non-MPS memory. But I could be wrong of course, or it's something missing in the docs. Hm, don't know what's best to do. At least it can't be the reason for the current case, right? OTOH, making the pools roots is also not a catastrophe either. BTW, The frame in struct glyph is only used on ttys, it's something for child frames on ttys. That's why I scan only the pools, from which all matrices are sub-allocated.=20
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Don't know if that plays > a role here. I didn't know that. And the glyph matrix, is that a tty-only thing too? Anyway, my concern is a bit more general: I think that objects without memory barriers, (e.g. structs allocated with malloc) should be scanned as roots. E.g. in fix_frame there is code that uses FRAME_FONT and to get the address of some field in a device dependent struct. This struct is not protected by a memory barrier; I think these kind of structs should be roots. In the MPS paper, section "Phase 4: Black Mutator Tracing", they say that gray and white segments are read protected. I assume that also means that, at his point, there are no write barriers. If the mutator can read a pointer to a white object from a struct without read barriers and put the white pointer in a black object, then we have a problem. That's why I think that structs without memory barriers should be roots. There might be special circumstances where code like in fix_frame is sufficient. 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It's this thread that calls into MPS and > copies/scans objects as needed. In this case that triggered the > assertion. > > I'm not sure when or how the main thread is resumed. Gerd would > certainly know. I'm not reading emacs-bugs normally, feel free to CC me, if there is something I can help with.) The barrier on macOS is a Match port. A port is a message queue olus a thread handling messages. When a barrier is the oS stops the thread hitting the barrier, and send the exception handler a message. The thread of the exception does its MPS things, and tells the OS to resume the thread having the problem. BTW, glyph pools are only used for tty frames. Don't know if that plays a role here.
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Hi Eli,
> On Jul 30, 2025, at 6:24=E2=80=AFAM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> =
wrote:
>=20
>> From: Sean Devlin <spd@HIDDEN>
>> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 13:31:08 -0500
>>=20
>> I left Emacs idle overnight, and I found a crash log when I returned =
in
>> the morning. Please see the attached file.
>>=20
>> I'm using the IGC branch, and it looks like a related assertion =
failed.
>>=20
>> I have igc-step-interval set to 0.05, but no other configuration =
related to GC.
>>=20
>> I don=E2=80=99t know how to reproduce the error.
>=20
> Can you tell what code could your Emacs be running while idle? Like,
> timers etc.?
Here are the timers I have running:
5.0s 5.0s auto-revert-buffers
2m 0.6s 5m savehist-autosave
22m 14.7s 1h org-persist--refresh-gc-lock
* 0.1s t show-paren-function
* 0.5s t which-func-update
* 0.5s t jit-lock-context--update
* 0.5s :repeat blink-cursor-start
* 4h 0m 0.0s repeat ef-themes-load-random
The last one might be relevant, since I added it within the last week. =
Basically, it is choosing a new theme after Emacs has been idle for four =
hours. This entails disabling the currently enabled theme and then =
enabling a new one.
>=20
>> Thread 0:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
>> 0 Emacs 0x100863214 =
redisplay_internal + 208
>> 1 Emacs 0x10086930c =
redisplay_preserve_echo_area + 132
>> 2 Emacs 0x100914d5c =
detect_input_pending_run_timers + 144
>> 3 Emacs 0x1009f4520 =
wait_reading_process_output + 4488
>> 4 Emacs 0x100912bb4 read_char + =
7444
>> 5 Emacs 0x10090ee14 =
read_key_sequence + 1328
>> 6 Emacs 0x10090d2c8 =
command_loop_1 + 864
>> 7 Emacs 0x100992c14 =
internal_condition_case + 228
>> 8 Emacs 0x10090cf54 =
command_loop_2 + 52
>> 9 Emacs 0x100992218 =
internal_catch + 224
>> 10 Emacs 0x100aecd94 =
command_loop.cold.1 + 88
>> 11 Emacs 0x10090c784 command_loop =
+ 156
>> 12 Emacs 0x10090c618 =
recursive_edit_1 + 188
>> 13 Emacs 0x10090c91c =
Frecursive_edit + 384
>> 14 Emacs 0x10090b73c main + 8644
>> 15 dyld 0x183686b98 start + 6076
>>=20
>> Thread 1 Crashed:
>> 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1839ee388 =
__pthread_kill + 8
>> 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x183a2788c pthread_kill =
+ 296
>> 2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x1838f8d04 raise + 32
>> 3 Emacs 0x100aec8d4 =
terminate_due_to_signal + 120
>> 4 Emacs 0x100aed748 emacs_abort + =
20
>> 5 Emacs 0x100a4a2a0 =
ns_term_shutdown + 132
>> 6 Emacs 0x10090951c =
shut_down_emacs + 360
>> 7 Emacs 0x100aec938 =
terminate_due_to_signal + 220
>> 8 Emacs 0x100a1d150 =
igc_assert_fail + 76
>> 9 Emacs 0x100ae1b50 =
mps_lib_assert_fail + 32 (mpsliban.c:87) [inlined]
>> 10 Emacs 0x100ae1b50 =
traceScanSegRes + 532 (trace.c:1229)
>> 11 Emacs 0x100aa30e4 traceScanSeg =
+ 40 (trace.c:1267)
>> 12 Emacs 0x100aa2f64 =
TraceSegAccess + 328 (trace.c:1320)
>> 13 Emacs 0x100aa84f8 =
SegWholeAccess + 336 (seg.c:1262)
>> 14 Emacs 0x100a96d44 ArenaAccess + =
564 (global.c:671)
>> 15 Emacs 0x100ae9300 protCatchOne =
+ 192 (protxc.c:242) [inlined]
>> 16 Emacs 0x100ae9300 =
protCatchThread + 304 (protxc.c:284)
>> 17 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x183a27c0c =
_pthread_start + 136
>> 18 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x183a22b80 thread_start =
+ 8
>=20
> This indicates that thread 1 was the thread which got hit by SIGABRT.
> Thread 1 is NOT the main thread, which runs Lisp and redisplay. So
> what is thread 1, and how come it calls MPS functions?
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On Wed, Jul 30 2025, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> You seem to be talking about the data structures manipulated by the
> display engine, but the thread which got hit with SIGABRT was not the
> main thread (which indeed was in redisplay), it's some other thread.
> And I wonder how come that other thread called MPS.
I think that's the usual way how page faults are handled on MacOS:
1. the main thread hits a memory barrier (in this case in redisplay)
2. the Mach kernel stops the main thread and sends an message to
process' exception port
3. there is a dedicated thread that reads the message from the
exception port. It's this thread that calls into MPS and
copies/scans objects as needed. In this case that triggered the
assertion.
I'm not sure when or how the main thread is resumed. Gerd would
certainly know.
Helmut
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Full text available.Received: (at 79116) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2025 12:30:49 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 30 08:30:49 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40196 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1uh5xI-0005ox-W1 for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2025 08:30:49 -0400 Received: from mail-24417.protonmail.ch ([109.224.244.17]:48853) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <pipcet@HIDDEN>) id 1uh5xE-0005oM-Kp for 79116 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2025 08:30:46 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1753878637; x=1754137837; bh=61BgXeOoso5sTSTIUlu+rVJWRSUX3G7FiYWnpFp8Yjw=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=LriHU4ZGhIzdUicTK2bJgHEIo7PAWcpDSDp8ezcovIuo97RpAZ3/CHloBp2fSA1q1 4WTL2eC1AYuGhXjd3Lg7HdiMbRR1+GN5I9rlkbHhhiqoUjmK9v6rqgyOAESpIAzxUh RSmyr0F67lFEElPCCyNC4yINsNUvQJpORCI3tfa7t1YOvrPB9F5dA0L+IUVVn/K7ZX 0Pl1AW129ll8gapgRSU3Ftc+JAc8yXckDlDm89eeP/mRaThuFItsSeZ4zQzwldx2P0 qm/BxfkFoW3cJ646QGDbaUjW3s14IS2Hnee4IZ89FhvomBuG+TeUbtnQGomIyHnWom FU5kjOUqaE6+Q== Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2025 12:30:31 +0000 To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> From: Pip Cet <pipcet@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: bug#79116: 31.0.50; Crash on IGC build Message-ID: <87ectxdfp8.fsf@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <86cy9hx5ju.fsf@HIDDEN> References: <148F1C71-B839-4308-A062-FC51E954AFE4@HIDDEN> <87jz3qdfpj.fsf@HIDDEN> <86cy9hx5ju.fsf@HIDDEN> Feedback-ID: 112775352:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 6e44e0d53ca2edc5dd6459bb9090cf3a00e12c61 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 79116 Cc: spd@HIDDEN, 79116 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@HIDDEN> writes: >> Cc: 79116 <at> debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2025 18:18:05 +0000 >> From: Pip Cet via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, >> the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@HIDDEN> >> >> "Sean Devlin" <spd@HIDDEN> writes: >> >> > Hi folks, >> > >> > I left Emacs idle overnight, and I found a crash log when I returned i= n >> > the morning. Please see the attached file. >> > >> > I'm using the IGC branch, and it looks like a related assertion failed= . >> > >> > I have igc-step-interval set to 0.05, but no other configuration relat= ed to GC. >> > >> > I don=E2=80=99t know how to reproduce the error. >> > >> > Thanks! >> >> Thanks for the report. I'm afraid we don't have very much to go on: this >> assertion in trace.c in MPS failed: >> >> AVER(RefSetSub(ScanStateUnfixedSummary(ss), SegSummary(seg))); /* <d= esign/check/#.common> */ >> >> I think that means a memory structure internal to MPS must have been >> corrupted; either the ScanState on the stack, or the segment >> information. > > Do you understand how come a non-main thread called MPS in this case? Yes, MPS uses a separate thread to handle Mach exceptions on macOS, rather than a signal handler. Most likely, the main thread accessed memory behind a memory barrier and was suspended while the protection thread attempted to lift the barrier, but that ran into an assertion violation and aborted instead. Pip
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Full text available.Received: (at 79116) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2025 12:28:40 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 30 08:28:40 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40172 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1uh5vE-0005bd-3P for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2025 08:28:40 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:49034) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1uh5vA-0005b0-Tv for 79116 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2025 08:28:37 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1uh5v2-0005Lf-Ug; Wed, 30 Jul 2025 08:28:29 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From:Date: mime-version; bh=9Qp0ALnOfOn5MQb+9m+Q/7sHu6fwbg/n/86g9ybot7w=; b=XmXXAegpyWo+ shufQywiAVoJ8mFmJ0aJZMXBjGBQeajeOEglaKA72xfk5Y1p863GFccxSKzAt8N9nzgh0JmDN7j2M ABIpk2XpSHq2FjAgdboBMUFqQfcv6Ah93+35lPuMqVfWKgkHnKqptKJMnn4VrQbIjd/tMtUrZ5B3/ 2Jvx1qL6Gs3xBQWvtXvCAQOk5vNfJGUWzwCxk6zU8dFjJ0Bc12ijHKPPkIYWXZ96LOYk+18E85dTJ HHDsu7oOS6FMVdA+KluBbg5CnImj8ROnx+9jY2pfC+ZrBylTHlXH06wyTY6ug7dmdjObnYHb1VlpU UqKffAuWsfJR+fafG8K9XA==; Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2025 15:28:10 +0300 Message-Id: <865xf9x3qd.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <87ldo6xs0b.fsf@HIDDEN> (message from Helmut Eller on Wed, 30 Jul 2025 05:43:48 +0200) Subject: Re: bug#79116: 31.0.50; Crash on IGC build References: <148F1C71-B839-4308-A062-FC51E954AFE4@HIDDEN> <87jz3qdfpj.fsf@HIDDEN> <87ldo6xs0b.fsf@HIDDEN> X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 79116 Cc: spd@HIDDEN, pipcet@HIDDEN, 79116 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > Cc: Sean Devlin <spd@HIDDEN>, 79116 <at> debbugs.gnu.org > From: Helmut Eller <eller.helmut@HIDDEN> > Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2025 05:43:48 +0200 > > On Tue, Jul 29 2025, Pip Cet via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" wrote: > > > Thanks for the report. I'm afraid we don't have very much to go on: this > > assertion in trace.c in MPS failed: > > > > AVER(RefSetSub(ScanStateUnfixedSummary(ss), SegSummary(seg))); /* <design/check/#.common> */ > > This may or may not be relevant: the GC literature defines a weak and a > strong tricolor invariant. I wonder if this code checks those > invariants. > > In fix_frame, we do something that may not be kosher: we trace the glyph > pool. We can access the glyph pool because it lives outside the GC heap > and has no memory barriers (and the world is stopped). However, MPS may > assume that we scan such regions as roots because there are no memory > barriers on them to enforce the tricolor invariants. I don't understand > the invariants well enough to tell if what we do is harmless or not. > Perhaps someone who does could think this through. You seem to be talking about the data structures manipulated by the display engine, but the thread which got hit with SIGABRT was not the main thread (which indeed was in redisplay), it's some other thread. And I wonder how come that other thread called MPS.
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Full text available.Received: (at 79116) by debbugs.gnu.org; 30 Jul 2025 11:24:35 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Wed Jul 30 07:24:35 2025 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39911 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1uh4vD-00076Z-Cw for submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2025 07:24:35 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37240) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1uh4vB-000769-Da for 79116 <at> debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2025 07:24:33 -0400 Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <eliz@HIDDEN>) id 1uh4v4-0004Sh-Vc; Wed, 30 Jul 2025 07:24:26 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-version:References:Subject:In-Reply-To:To:From: Date; bh=jAvCXCit9+k5SQHRrXyCKgUDdcasKLpiFZc8xtc3cTQ=; b=TFLT57Or8GMCuAaHAF7C Sd9uIOLQp45GJ5HoL0tmAiCjqim2h8vu99FyqpeQ/6sdkaANGI/y74LQk7sCMAqFsxUFqNLGDdQz9 rh71fF6FjDWcq1rNNKKHgi8r55oxwvnqtHaV9XrrEF+nVJ92psWbOewqMZcKdE1zJrXxAlbMPoujl ZcLJPGMJWPxaFmgTKomL7VsEh0klzBsUXz3GB1Bpb6BXeXV32IZo6z+X1npZ9e7tpKntZps2EsX4p JLQGKC4bAatzxT+tlcWu4BIn7P+Lo00WMZgCoaVjPrf2N2/nLTdr9EjNbZEW7Tr1LlcLv+O9TnwCo tl5n+SxGwBApzQ==; Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2025 14:24:23 +0300 Message-Id: <86h5ytx6oo.fsf@HIDDEN> From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@HIDDEN> To: Sean Devlin <spd@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <148F1C71-B839-4308-A062-FC51E954AFE4@HIDDEN> (message from Sean Devlin on Mon, 28 Jul 2025 13:31:08 -0500) Subject: Re: bug#79116: 31.0.50; Crash on IGC build References: <148F1C71-B839-4308-A062-FC51E954AFE4@HIDDEN> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Score: -2.3 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: 79116 Cc: 79116 <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.3 (---) > From: Sean Devlin <spd@HIDDEN> > Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2025 13:31:08 -0500 > > I left Emacs idle overnight, and I found a crash log when I returned in > the morning. Please see the attached file. > > I'm using the IGC branch, and it looks like a related assertion failed. > > I have igc-step-interval set to 0.05, but no other configuration related to GC. > > I don’t know how to reproduce the error. Can you tell what code could your Emacs be running while idle? Like, timers etc.? > Thread 0:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread > 0 Emacs 0x100863214 redisplay_internal + 208 > 1 Emacs 0x10086930c redisplay_preserve_echo_area + 132 > 2 Emacs 0x100914d5c detect_input_pending_run_timers + 144 > 3 Emacs 0x1009f4520 wait_reading_process_output + 4488 > 4 Emacs 0x100912bb4 read_char + 7444 > 5 Emacs 0x10090ee14 read_key_sequence + 1328 > 6 Emacs 0x10090d2c8 command_loop_1 + 864 > 7 Emacs 0x100992c14 internal_condition_case + 228 > 8 Emacs 0x10090cf54 command_loop_2 + 52 > 9 Emacs 0x100992218 internal_catch + 224 > 10 Emacs 0x100aecd94 command_loop.cold.1 + 88 > 11 Emacs 0x10090c784 command_loop + 156 > 12 Emacs 0x10090c618 recursive_edit_1 + 188 > 13 Emacs 0x10090c91c Frecursive_edit + 384 > 14 Emacs 0x10090b73c main + 8644 > 15 dyld 0x183686b98 start + 6076 > > Thread 1 Crashed: > 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1839ee388 __pthread_kill + 8 > 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x183a2788c pthread_kill + 296 > 2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x1838f8d04 raise + 32 > 3 Emacs 0x100aec8d4 terminate_due_to_signal + 120 > 4 Emacs 0x100aed748 emacs_abort + 20 > 5 Emacs 0x100a4a2a0 ns_term_shutdown + 132 > 6 Emacs 0x10090951c shut_down_emacs + 360 > 7 Emacs 0x100aec938 terminate_due_to_signal + 220 > 8 Emacs 0x100a1d150 igc_assert_fail + 76 > 9 Emacs 0x100ae1b50 mps_lib_assert_fail + 32 (mpsliban.c:87) [inlined] > 10 Emacs 0x100ae1b50 traceScanSegRes + 532 (trace.c:1229) > 11 Emacs 0x100aa30e4 traceScanSeg + 40 (trace.c:1267) > 12 Emacs 0x100aa2f64 TraceSegAccess + 328 (trace.c:1320) > 13 Emacs 0x100aa84f8 SegWholeAccess + 336 (seg.c:1262) > 14 Emacs 0x100a96d44 ArenaAccess + 564 (global.c:671) > 15 Emacs 0x100ae9300 protCatchOne + 192 (protxc.c:242) [inlined] > 16 Emacs 0x100ae9300 protCatchThread + 304 (protxc.c:284) > 17 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x183a27c0c _pthread_start + 136 > 18 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x183a22b80 thread_start + 8 This indicates that thread 1 was the thread which got hit by SIGABRT. Thread 1 is NOT the main thread, which runs Lisp and redisplay. So what is thread 1, and how come it calls MPS functions?
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I'm afraid we don't have very much to go on: this > assertion in trace.c in MPS failed: > > AVER(RefSetSub(ScanStateUnfixedSummary(ss), SegSummary(seg))); /* <design/check/#.common> */ This may or may not be relevant: the GC literature defines a weak and a strong tricolor invariant. I wonder if this code checks those invariants. In fix_frame, we do something that may not be kosher: we trace the glyph pool. We can access the glyph pool because it lives outside the GC heap and has no memory barriers (and the world is stopped). However, MPS may assume that we scan such regions as roots because there are no memory barriers on them to enforce the tricolor invariants. I don't understand the invariants well enough to tell if what we do is harmless or not. Perhaps someone who does could think this through. Helmut
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charset=utf-8 > On Jul 29, 2025, at 1:18=E2=80=AFPM, Pip Cet <pipcet@HIDDEN> = wrote: >=20 > "Sean Devlin" <spd@HIDDEN <mailto:spd@HIDDEN>> writes: >=20 >> Hi folks, >>=20 >> I left Emacs idle overnight, and I found a crash log when I returned = in >> the morning. Please see the attached file. >>=20 >> I'm using the IGC branch, and it looks like a related assertion = failed. >>=20 >> I have igc-step-interval set to 0.05, but no other configuration = related to GC. >>=20 >> I don=E2=80=99t know how to reproduce the error. >>=20 >> Thanks! >=20 > Thanks for the report. I'm afraid we don't have very much to go on: = this > assertion in trace.c in MPS failed: >=20 > AVER(RefSetSub(ScanStateUnfixedSummary(ss), SegSummary(seg))); /* = <design/check/#.common> */ >=20 > I think that means a memory structure internal to MPS must have been > corrupted; either the ScanState on the stack, or the segment > information. >=20 > A core dump might help us figure out more, but I don't think there is > one, right? >=20 > Pip Right, I don=E2=80=99t think there is a core dump. I can look into how = to record one in the future, but I don=E2=80=99t know how to reproduce this issue. Sean= --Apple-Mail=_9545C119-814B-4C76-99E7-6D77AF161D87 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: = after-white-space;"><br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Jul 29, = 2025, at 1:18=E2=80=AFPM, Pip Cet <pipcet@HIDDEN> = wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta = charset=3D"UTF-8"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; float: none; display: inline !important;">"Sean Devlin" = <</span><a href=3D"mailto:spd@HIDDEN" style=3D"font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: = 0px;">spd@HIDDEN</a><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">> = writes:</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none;"><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none;"><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: = start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;">Hi folks,<br><br>I left Emacs idle overnight, = and I found a crash log when I returned in<br>the morning. Please see = the attached file.<br><br>I'm using the IGC branch, and it looks like a = related assertion failed.<br><br>I have igc-step-interval set to 0.05, = but no other configuration related to GC.<br><br>I don=E2=80=99t know = how to reproduce the error.<br><br>Thanks!<br></blockquote><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;">Thanks for the report. I'm afraid we don't = have very much to go on: this</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, = 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline = !important;">assertion in trace.c in MPS failed:</span><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline = !important;"> AVER(RefSetSub(ScanStateUnfixedSummary(ss),= SegSummary(seg))); /* <design/check/#.common> */</span><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;">I think that means a memory structure = internal to MPS must have been</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, = 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline = !important;">corrupted; either the ScanState on the stack, or the = segment</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none;"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; float: none; display: inline !important;">information.</span><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;">A core dump might help us figure out more, = but I don't think there is</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none;"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">one, = right?</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none;"><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none;"><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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I can look into how to record = one in</div><div>the future, but I don=E2=80=99t know how to reproduce = this issue.</div><div><br></div><div>Sean</div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_9545C119-814B-4C76-99E7-6D77AF161D87--
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"Sean Devlin" <spd@HIDDEN> writes:
> Hi folks,
>
> I left Emacs idle overnight, and I found a crash log when I returned in
> the morning. Please see the attached file.
>
> I'm using the IGC branch, and it looks like a related assertion failed.
>
> I have igc-step-interval set to 0.05, but no other configuration related =
to GC.
>
> I don=E2=80=99t know how to reproduce the error.
>
> Thanks!
Thanks for the report. I'm afraid we don't have very much to go on: this
assertion in trace.c in MPS failed:
AVER(RefSetSub(ScanStateUnfixedSummary(ss), SegSummary(seg))); /* <desi=
gn/check/#.common> */
I think that means a memory structure internal to MPS must have been
corrupted; either the ScanState on the stack, or the segment
information.
A core dump might help us figure out more, but I don't think there is
one, right?
Pip
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I left Emacs idle overnight, and I found a crash log when I returned in
the morning. Please see the attached file.
I'm using the IGC branch, and it looks like a related assertion failed.
I have igc-step-interval set to 0.05, but no other configuration related =
to GC.
I don=E2=80=99t know how to reproduce the error.
Thanks!
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Translated Report (Full Report Below)
-------------------------------------
Process: Emacs [14928]
Path: /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs
Identifier: org.gnu.Emacs
Version: Version 31.0.50 (9.0)
Code Type: ARM-64 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [1]
User ID: 501
Date/Time: 2025-07-26 17:52:38.4144 -0500
OS Version: macOS 15.6 (24G84)
Report Version: 12
Anonymous UUID: B51F9955-77E2-1BAC-67C3-F3461C1EA4D3
Sleep/Wake UUID: 89D38B6A-0664-45CC-8048-D09FF4D81A61
Time Awake Since Boot: 280000 seconds
Time Since Wake: 1799 seconds
System Integrity Protection: enabled
Crashed Thread: 1
Exception Type: EXC_CRASH (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000000, 0x0000000000000000
Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 6 Abort trap: 6
Terminating Process: Emacs [14928]
Thread 0:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 Emacs 0x100863214 =
redisplay_internal + 208
1 Emacs 0x10086930c =
redisplay_preserve_echo_area + 132
2 Emacs 0x100914d5c =
detect_input_pending_run_timers + 144
3 Emacs 0x1009f4520 =
wait_reading_process_output + 4488
4 Emacs 0x100912bb4 read_char + =
7444
5 Emacs 0x10090ee14 =
read_key_sequence + 1328
6 Emacs 0x10090d2c8 =
command_loop_1 + 864
7 Emacs 0x100992c14 =
internal_condition_case + 228
8 Emacs 0x10090cf54 =
command_loop_2 + 52
9 Emacs 0x100992218 =
internal_catch + 224
10 Emacs 0x100aecd94 =
command_loop.cold.1 + 88
11 Emacs 0x10090c784 command_loop =
+ 156
12 Emacs 0x10090c618 =
recursive_edit_1 + 188
13 Emacs 0x10090c91c =
Frecursive_edit + 384
14 Emacs 0x10090b73c main + 8644
15 dyld 0x183686b98 start + 6076
Thread 1 Crashed:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x1839ee388 =
__pthread_kill + 8
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x183a2788c pthread_kill =
+ 296
2 libsystem_c.dylib 0x1838f8d04 raise + 32
3 Emacs 0x100aec8d4 =
terminate_due_to_signal + 120
4 Emacs 0x100aed748 emacs_abort + =
20
5 Emacs 0x100a4a2a0 =
ns_term_shutdown + 132
6 Emacs 0x10090951c =
shut_down_emacs + 360
7 Emacs 0x100aec938 =
terminate_due_to_signal + 220
8 Emacs 0x100a1d150 =
igc_assert_fail + 76
9 Emacs 0x100ae1b50 =
mps_lib_assert_fail + 32 (mpsliban.c:87) [inlined]
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traceScanSegRes + 532 (trace.c:1229)
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TraceSegAccess + 328 (trace.c:1320)
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SegWholeAccess + 336 (seg.c:1262)
14 Emacs 0x100a96d44 ArenaAccess + =
564 (global.c:671)
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protCatchThread + 304 (protxc.c:284)
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Thread 2:
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pselect$DARWIN_EXTSN + 64
2 Emacs 0x100a4b38c -[EmacsApp =
fd_handler:] + 248
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__NSThread__start__ + 732
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Thread 3:: com.apple.NSEventThread
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4 CoreFoundation 0x183b12cbc =
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5 CoreFoundation 0x183b115d8 =
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Thread 5:
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Thread 1 crashed with ARM Thread State (64-bit):
x0: 0x0000000000000000 x1: 0x0000000000000000 x2: =
0x0000000000000000 x3: 0x00006000006aeae0
x4: 0x00006000006aeac0 x5: 0x0000000000000000 x6: =
0x0000000000002ac0 x7: 0x0000000000000030
x8: 0xe1b8e8013cf1070c x9: 0xe1b8e8005394370c x10: =
0x0000000000000001 x11: 0x00000001f19de060
x12: 0x0000000000000003 x13: 0x0000600001237f80 x14: =
0x01000001f19db4e1 x15: 0x00000001f19db4e0
x16: 0x0000000000000148 x17: 0x00000001f2a11558 x18: =
0x0000000000000000 x19: 0x0000000000000006
x20: 0x0000000000001903 x21: 0x000000016f6530e0 x22: =
0x1fd3fffedfffff00 x23: 0x0000000000000001
x24: 0x0000000000000001 x25: 0x000000005195ca45 x26: =
0x0000000100bc93d0 x27: 0x0000000100bc9000
x28: 0x0000000100bc93d0 fp: 0x000000016f651170 lr: =
0x0000000183a2788c
sp: 0x000000016f651150 pc: 0x00000001839ee388 cpsr: 0x40001000
far: 0x0000000000000000 esr: 0x56000080 Address size fault
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