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Th=C3=A1ng....................... <T=3D controversial wor= ds > According to > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_in_Vietnam > it needs either more capitals, or more lower case. Interesting. The abbreviated weekdays are returned by nl_langinfo from glibc, so it would have to be reported there. Based on my searching the capitalization varies by source, but I don't know Vietnamese so I am unqualified to say which is correct. Collin
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Tháng....................... <T= controversial words According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_in_Vietnam it needs either more capitals, or more lower case.
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