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[87.2.95.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fr18sm41820568wbb.9.2011.09.28.12.14.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:14:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> To: Jordi =?utf-8?q?Guti=C3=A9rrez_Hermoso?= <jordigh@HIDDEN> Subject: Re: Overriding `check:' target Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 21:14:07 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.30-2-686; KDE/4.6.5; i686; ; ) References: <CAPHS2gwUFyLx6VE=Mr4XfCvpV9OZ0UYtcdpxwEG1Ucy-nuKj5Q@HIDDEN> <201109281106.30120.stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> <CAPHS2gyW2Lw=X7Khi9+h14Dhee2Tr_K8P1HSjuNK1swcmCPtug@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAPHS2gyW2Lw=X7Khi9+h14Dhee2Tr_K8P1HSjuNK1swcmCPtug@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <201109282114.08378.stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: bug-automake@HIDDEN, automake@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) On Wednesday 28 September 2011, Jordi Guti=C3=A9rrez wrote: > (Please cc: me as I'm not subscribed to the list) >=20 > On 28 September 2011 04:06, Stefano Lattarini > <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> wrote: > > [Adding bug-automake] > > > > Reference: > > <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake/2011-09/msg00028.html> > > > > Hi Jordi, thanks for the report. > > > > On Tuesday 27 September 2011, Jordi Guti=C3=A9rrez wrote: > > > >> > >> This may be a little frivolous, but in GNU Octave's top-level > >> Makefile.am, we override the check: target: > >> > >> http://hg.savannah.gnu.org/hgweb/octave/file/1bfca2bbea8b/Makefile.am#= l106 > > > > Ah yes, you've hitten a known bug/limitation that I had already > > encoutered, but the lamentably forgotten about (sorry!). >=20 > Huh, so this is an automake bug? > This is fuzzy: it can be seen either as a bug or as a limitation. In theory, every automake-provided target should be overridable, which suggests the behaviour you are observing is a bug. But apparently the `all' and `check' targets are special enough to deserve a special treatment, especially when BUILT_SOURCES is involved; so the fact they cannot be overridden can be seen as an unfortunate, but not gratuitous, limitation. Anyway, changing the current behaviour might be tricky and break other usages "in the wild", so it's not something I want to do lighlty (even if documenting it might be worthwhile). So, IMHO the best fix for your problem is to change the Octave's Makefile.am, if possible. > >> > >> However, in the generated Makefile, this produces a warning: > >> > >> Makefile:2354: warning: overriding commands for target `check' > >> Makefile:1948: warning: ignoring old commands for target `check' > >> > >> because the generated Makefile contains these lines: > >> > >> ## Standard target > >> check: $(BUILT_SOURCES) > >> $(MAKE) $(AM_MAKEFLAGS) check-recursive > >> > > JFTR, If I understand things correctly, this hackish recipe is > > really required to ensure that $(BUILT_SOURCES) are effectively > > built not only before the `check' target, but also before all its > > "built-in" dependencies (`check-local', `check-am' and > > `check-recusrsive', mostly). > > > >> ## Overriden target > >> check: all > >> $(MAKE) -C test check > >> > > Just a question: why this overriding? >=20 > It's simply so that "make check" will contain the test output as the > last bit of output. Without this, the tests are run, but the output is > cluttered with "make[2]: Leaving directory..." output and similar. > Is this really much a problem? Can't you just ignore these extra lines, or call make with the `--no-print-directory' option? BTW, if the Octave testsuite uses the Automake-provided harness, you could enable colorized tests output, which makes pretty easy to ignore noise when visually scanning the testsuite output. > >> When does this happen? When is the check: target empty > >> and when does it actually have a command in there? > >> > > Automake should provide a recipe to the `check' target iff the > > `BUILT_SOURCES' variable is defined. >=20 > I see. Yes, we do define that variable, as you can see above in the > Makefile.am in our VCS. > Yes, I've noticed that :-) HTH, Stefano
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Huh, so this is an automake bug? >> >> However, in the generated Makefile, this produces a warning: >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Makefile:2354: warning: overriding commands for target `ch= eck' >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Makefile:1948: warning: ignoring old commands for target `= check' >> >> because the generated Makefile contains these lines: >> >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ## Standard target >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 check: $(BUILT_SOURCES) >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0$(MAKE) $(AM_MAKEFLAGS) check-recursive >> > JFTR, If I understand things correctly, this hackish recipe is > really required to ensure that $(BUILT_SOURCES) are effectively > built not only before the `check' target, but also before all its > "built-in" dependencies (`check-local', `check-am' and > `check-recusrsive', mostly). > >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ## Overriden target >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 check: all >> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0$(MAKE) -C test check >> > Just a question: why this overriding? It's simply so that "make check" will contain the test output as the last bit of output. Without this, the tests are run, but the output is cluttered with "make[2]: Leaving directory..." output and similar. >> When does this happen? When is the check: target empty >> and when does it actually have a command in there? >> > Automake should provide a recipe to the `check' target iff the > `BUILT_SOURCES' variable is defined. I see. Yes, we do define that variable, as you can see above in the Makefile.am in our VCS. - Jordi G. H.
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[82.58.50.203]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l40sm25181332wbm.10.2011.09.28.02.06.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 28 Sep 2011 02:06:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Stefano Lattarini <stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> To: automake@HIDDEN Subject: Overriding `check:' target Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:06:29 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.30-2-686; KDE/4.6.5; i686; ; ) References: <CAPHS2gwUFyLx6VE=Mr4XfCvpV9OZ0UYtcdpxwEG1Ucy-nuKj5Q@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <CAPHS2gwUFyLx6VE=Mr4XfCvpV9OZ0UYtcdpxwEG1Ucy-nuKj5Q@HIDDEN> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <201109281106.30120.stefano.lattarini@HIDDEN> Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.17 X-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit Cc: Jordi =?utf-8?q?Guti=C3=A9rrez_Hermoso?= <jordigh@HIDDEN>, bug-automake@HIDDEN X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Spam-Score: -5.1 (-----) [Adding bug-automake] Reference: <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/automake/2011-09/msg00028.html> Hi Jordi, thanks for the report. On Tuesday 27 September 2011, Jordi Guti=C3=A9rrez wrote: > (Please cc: me as I'm not subscribed to the list) >=20 > This may be a little frivolous, but in GNU Octave's top-level > Makefile.am, we override the check: target: > Ah yes, you've hitten a known bug/limitation that I had already encoutered, but the lamentably forgotten about (sorry!). > http://hg.savannah.gnu.org/hgweb/octave/file/1bfca2bbea8b/Makefile.am= #l106 >=20 > However, in the generated Makefile, this produces a warning: >=20 > Makefile:2354: warning: overriding commands for target `check' > Makefile:1948: warning: ignoring old commands for target `check' >=20 > because the generated Makefile contains these lines: >=20 > ## Standard target > check: $(BUILT_SOURCES) > $(MAKE) $(AM_MAKEFLAGS) check-recursive > JFTR, If I understand things correctly, this hackish recipe is really required to ensure that $(BUILT_SOURCES) are effectively built not only before the `check' target, but also before all its "built-in" dependencies (`check-local', `check-am' and `check-recusrsive', mostly). > ## Overriden target > check: all > $(MAKE) -C test check >=20 Just a question: why this overriding? If the `test' directory is listed in SUBDIRS, the automake-generated `check' target will take care of automatically recursing into `test' anyway. Or am I missing something about Octave's source tree setup? > I would like to silence that warning. > If you can, I suggest you to just drop the `check:' overriding, and let Automake handle the recusrions automatically. If you can't do so, I'll take a better look to see if we can work out another solution. > It clutters my compilation > buffer when I'm in Emacs and want to quickly jump to the first error > or warning with C-x `. It would suffice if I could make the check: > target empty. Can you please explain under what conditions the check: > target actually has a script involved? > You mean a "recipe involved" here, right? If yes, that happens iff the BUILT_SOURCES variable is defined. > I tried making a minimal > example of my own with Automake, and it produced something like this: >=20 > ... > check: check-recursive > all-am: Makefile config.h > ... >=20 > i.e. an empty target. So I can override check: without getting a > warning. > In truth, automake is *not* letting you override it; you are "just" adding additional dependencies and a recipe to it -- but make finds this legitimate of course, so it won't complain. > When does this happen? When is the check: target empty > and when does it actually have a command in there? >=20 Automake should provide a recipe to the `check' target iff the `BUILT_SOURCES' variable is defined. HTH, Stefano
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