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[70.94.157.206]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 17-20020a544191000000b0035ba52d0efasm654499oiy.52.2022.12.22.11.35.20 for <bug-grep@HIDDEN> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:35:20 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <5fb80351-5b7f-a2d5-e545-cb2d2c74e702@HIDDEN> Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2022 13:35:19 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:102.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/102.4.0 Subject: Re: bug#60257: please fix warnings from egrep and fgrep Content-Language: en-US To: bug-grep@HIDDEN References: <664a3e21-7738-96d1-719e-fbcedcb71155@HIDDEN> From: Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs@HIDDEN> In-Reply-To: <664a3e21-7738-96d1-719e-fbcedcb71155@HIDDEN> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::22a; envelope-from=bruce.dubbs@HIDDEN; helo=mail-oi1-x22a.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -31 X-Spam_score: -3.2 X-Spam_bar: --- X-Spam_report: (-3.2 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.148, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) X-Debbugs-Envelope-To: submit X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list List-Id: <debbugs-submit.debbugs.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/debbugs-submit/> List-Post: <mailto:debbugs-submit <at> debbugs.gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debbugs-submit>, <mailto:debbugs-submit-request <at> debbugs.gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org Sender: "Debbugs-submit" <debbugs-submit-bounces <at> debbugs.gnu.org> X-Spam-Score: -3.5 (---) On 12/22/22 09:16, Thomas Wolff wrote: > These tools spill out warnings that are irritating almost everyone, moreover, they > are threatening to be removed. > There was some discussion about this earlier this year, but with no consolidated > outcome, so I'd like to raise the issue again. > Some weird and wrong arguments were presented; first, many GNU tools do have POSIX > extensions, including grep. > Second and particularly: >> egrep and fgrep were not entirely portable even before POSIX deprecated them in 2001 > grep -E and grep -F were not portable either! There are legacy systems which had > egrep and fgrep but did not have grep options -E and -F. > So all this achieves is really to annoy thousands of people and to waste time of > hundreds of package maintainers. > Please have mercy with the community. Give us the comfort of not being bothered when > using egrep and fgrep in the future, and if it is as a Christmas present. > Thanks > Thomas If building from source, workaround with: sed -i "s/echo/#echo/" src/egrep.sh before configure. If not use: sed -i "s/echo/#echo/" /usr/bin/[ef]grep -- Bruce Dubbs linuxfromscratch.org
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